What are your 200x modifications?

[thefox]

Since a number of use have a modified (or to be) 200x I figured we might as well start a thread just to talk about what we plan on doing so that we can compile a bunch of info in one spot.

For starters this is the setup I am planning on for my 200x engine wise.

-XR 6 speed transmission
-new kick start springs
-new shift return springs
-new clutch disks and springs, probably EBC but maybe Versa, I haven’t heard what is better or if I should use the heavy duty or not
-Wiesco 10.25:1 compression piston
-new valves and guides, probably versa
-new Precision Machining valve springs
-Honda 200 valve cover with compression release
-new DID cam chain
-new cam maybe XR200, maybe web
-oil cooler, I have the hookups just need the cooler
-26mm XR200 carb. and intake
-DG RCM exhaust
-K&N filter with outerwear and no air box lid
-all new gaskets and seals

The engine for mine won’t be done until next summer though because this summer will be spent working on getting the frame ready, rolling, and maybe even able to stop.




What are your plans?
Better yet, what have you done and how do you like it?

[bones200x]

I have ordered a 26mm carb for a xr200. The carb came in today. I hope to get it tomorrow. I will post on how well it does. Currently I have a 28mm Keihin on it right now.
I have a Web cam in mine. All around(365 lift). Megacycle offers a 370 lift. They say for better mid and top end.
I will have pics of mine soon. I know I keep saying that. But I have to borrow a digital camera to do it with. Plus it has rained alot around here lately too..
One hint though. Buy Honda Cam chain guides. I bought the cheaper version. They are noisy. They work, but a friend said they won't last the year????? I have the DID cam chain. Beat for money. That is who makes Honda.Good luck

[jenndnn3]

Gimme time, still working the best ones out..... SO MANY OPTIONS:cry: :confused:

I do know I will have complete topend of the xr. I am thinkin I am gonna conquer the tranny, by swapping some stuff around.:shocked: Researching that one now.

XR crank, heavy duty timing chain, (didnt like what I read in general tech). Thats it for now. Decompression. And that is one engine:hail:

I have a second that is going under as well.

[Glenn]

Originally posted by bones200x
Buy Honda Cam chain guides. I bought the cheaper version. They are noisy. They work, but a friend said they won't last the year????? I have the DID cam chain. Beat for money. That is who makes Honda.Good luck

What kind of guides did you go with? Parts Unlimited?

[bones200x]

LOL yes..Parts unlimited...I guess some things are better by brand name...
I guess the old saying "live and learn" holds true.
If I have to tear this engine down anytime sone, I will buy Honda ones.

[BaronX]

Im goin for a xr 200 piston and xr cam ported head jet kit and ive already got a pipe on it.

[deathman53]

my 86 200x has a 84r front end, 350x tripples, +4 duarblue axle, works rear shock, holeshot xcr's, fender brace, roll design 86/87 trx250r pegs, and to be done as of next week a ported/polished motor and 27mm carb and new intake tube. I'm gonna have bradied lines made for it. ALso I have a supertapp exhaust on it. The list of mods to my 250r is a real long one

[thefox]

Jen- Do you know if there is a difference in the XR and X crank or are you just using it because it is there?

Bones - Thanks for the tip about the guides. I have not been impressed with Parts Unlimited quality for any of their parts.

Deathman - Have you used braded lines on other trikes? I have heard that they help a lot with street bikes but can you tell much of a difference on a trike?

[deathman53]

I think they work better on trikes. I have them on my 250r and the back is alot better, the front is 200% better as I have a 400ex master cylinder on it. there is a reason why all the racers use braided lines, also has the brakes heat up, the rubber lines expand more, the steel lines won't expand. When the lines expand, there is less brake fluid pressure and it requires more effect to stop.

[jenndnn3]

There are no differences between the cranks, bearings, or rods. But the full cankshaft pulls a different part number. I am thinking because the timing chain has pulled one as well that piece is what may be different. At this time I havent actually gotten to those part numbers yet. The part number matching is extremely tedious work. I will get there soon. I am concentrting on getting the engine sandblasted right now. Then painted. Then systematically painted. Useing the xr crank should add nothing to the performance as far as I know. Iwas jus basically letting everyone know it could be done.

[da_catt]

85 200x with 350x front end and rear shock, +6 axle, 250sx head light. 12:1 piston, ported head by me, 250x carb and manifold (head, frame and gas tank modified to make this work), web 172 cam, racing valve spring kit, custom made cab to air box tube, 250x uni air filter with no aribox lid, left side of air box cut out ( i have only rode it like this in the sand) dg exhaust, barnett clutch with heavy springs.

[Glenn]

Originally posted by bones200x
LOL yes..Parts unlimited...I guess some things are better by brand name...
I guess the old saying "live and learn" holds true.
If I have to tear this engine down anytime sone, I will buy Honda ones.

Thanks for passing that along. Looks like it's worth the extra bucks to get the OEM ones.

I had one of their carb rebuild kits and the float valve was faulty.

[bones200x]

First of all. My internet has been down for 5 days.
I installed a XR200 carb and intake on my 200X. You will have to slightly modify your intake air boot. I can't beleive the throttle reponse it has. Will pull front end up about 2 inches just using gas in 3rd!!!. If I hit it hard it will pull it up. I am very Happy now.
I didn't have to change jets. I have a Camera for this coming weekend!!!!!!!yaaaahhhhhh for everyone wanting pics.

[jenndnn3]

Welcome back! if you can take some real good pictures of how you hooked that up. Where you ordered it and part#'s. You porbably posted elsewhere I apologize if I missed it.



Fox, If you put the decompression I dont see a need for the heavy duty kicker spring. But that is just an opinion. Based on what I have seen, this is where the weakness lies. Xr handles the same componets just fine with heavier compression. The difference, decompression. But a while your in there I guess wouldnt hurt.

[Glenn]

I'll second Jenn's request. We're all having a hard time figuring out exactly what intake will work with the XR carb.

[thefox]

Fox, If you put the decompression I dont see a need for the heavy duty kicker spring. But that is just an opinion. Based on what I have seen, this is where the weakness lies. Xr handles the same componets just fine with heavier compression. The difference, decompression. But a while your in there I guess wouldnt hurt

I figure that since it will be apart I might as well replace the springs, I will go with ones from Honda. I haven't decided what I am going to do for the decompression, I might go with a simple lever to flip each time like the regular honda 200's or I may try to rig up a cable so I don't have to reach all the way down to the top of the head:cry: . I was thinking about hooking the cable up to a lever on the left handle bar like some dirt bikes or maybe mount a dash with a pull knob that some machines use for the choke.

[bones200x]

The intake.....16210-KT0-000
The carb....Don't have part number. It fit a 87 XR200...
Where bought.....My Honda dealer.....All parts availible... Intake $23-26
Carb retail was $200 or so...
The only thing of how it fits. Is at the back of the carb. It is very close to the top shock mount. I used a peice of pvc pipe (i had a spare intake boot) inserted about 2 inches before the original end (for stock carb). And a peice of car radiator hose to splice the two together. The thin radiator hose works fine close to shock.
I had a friend of mine ride it yesterday. (he used to race 200x's back in their day). He was very impressed. He said not as fast as racers, But very good bottom to mid.
I dont know if much of a race or not. But a friend of mine has a 250sx. We are going riding Saturday. I know we will hook up..
I will try to find part numbers for carb tomorrow. Lost my receipt.lol
As far as I know. All XR200's has a 26mm carb.Just different jets. Mine has a 38 pilot.....110 main....I haven't changed anything EXCEPT lowering needle ONE groove.
Has anyone used the megacycle cams? Mine is .365 lift....They have a .370 lift. They state better mid and added top end....?????
http://www.megacyclecams.com/catalog/catalog.pdf

[jenndnn3]

Excellent I already have an 87, the only thing missing is the carb. When you get a oppurtunity, could you take a pict of the carb and the setup. Thx Jen

[Glenn]

Yeah, I'd love a pic of that set up as well!

Thanks for the info! That manifold puts it at the correct angle?

Intake from servicehonda.com:

16210-KT0-000 $20.3


Here's what I came up with for carbs for a 2002 XR200R....(servicehonda.com prices)

16100-KT0-L00 CARBURETOR (PD97B A)
Servicehonda.com price: $116.87

16100-KT0-A10 CARBURETOR (PD97A C)
Servicehonda.com price: 116.87

I'm REALLY tempted to do this setup. I'm assuming it'll still make a decent difference on a stock motor. May be worth the $150 to find out.......Hmmmm.

[ladano]

xr200 or xr200r? Which carb or they the same.

[Glenn]

I think you can get a late model 200R carb to work.

[thefox]

The clymer book lists the...
86-87 XR200R carb as a PD97A (the book only goes to '87)
81-83 XR200R carb as a PD28A
XR200 carb as a PD32A


Glenn, is it $116 for the complete carb, jets and everything? That sound slike a good price.

I have the PD28A that I am going to try.

[bones200x]

Carb numbers are PD97A....
87 xr200r. I think the only kind made in 87-92.
My jets are 110 main...38 pilot
The intake is at the right angle. Like I said, If you use the radiator hose off of a car (1 1/4- 1 5/16) it will work fine.
Just a little tight at the TOP shock mount bolt.Need to cut intake boot about 2 inches back from original end. I will have photos this weekend.
I used a piece of 1 1/4" pvc pipe and attached the radiator hose to it. I would advise painting pvc pipe black. Mine is white. Should show up in photo good.
Oh....IMPORTANT: the carb studs DOESN'T COME WITH INTAKE. DON'T FORGET TO ORDER!

[ladano]

Thanx, thats what I've been waiting to hear.

[Glenn]

fox,
I'm pretty sure that's the complete carb.

bones,
I'm looking forward to those pics.

[thefox]

Has anyone tried to put 85-86 250R rear fenders on an 83-85 200X? I know the front fender mounts right up and looks good but how close is the rear fender? I found a nice used fender set of Maier plastic for a 250R and I like the looks of the 250R rear fender but my 200X is not near me or complete enough to test fit them.

[haywood71]

All right BONES

Now there is 2 of use that have the same carb set-up(except mines of a 1990 xr200r) and it works.

There has been so much discussion about this set-up on this board and atvconnection.com forums and alot of people think that its impossible.

Heck our airboot mods with the pvc pipe is even the same, at least we're on the same page.lol

My jetting is a little different though, with my mods I'm running a 42 pilot and 118 main jet

Jeff

[haywood71]

heres a pic

[bones200x]

Well....good....we are on the same page.
I finally got to ride mine today (Sat.) It runs great.
It can out run 2 things!!!!!!!!yyaaaahhhhh.I out run a xr100 by 3-4 bike links. I out ran a 250sx by....uh...don't know. When I went by him in 3rd...he quit..lol
The 250sx got me on take off, Took me till 3rd to catch up and pass.
The pic looks almost like my set Haywwod. I guess I don't have to post any now..lol...Even though I took some with a 35mm camera today. The digital camera feel through. But Walmart has plenty of camera's
This is just a question, maynot mean anything. The exhaust pipe on my X turns withish after I have rode it awhile. Not necessarily wide open or putting around. I was going through a lot of mud. The plug looks great. ??? Is this normal? I have painted the pipe black.I usually notice it after I have stopped riding.Oh well....
I raised my needle back up to the 3rd groove. Helped on top end. I adjusted my timing was high. (1 or less mm)
Well...I got to get some rest...later all.

[jenndnn3]

The fox have you gotten your answer yet?

Haywood and Bones, This info is very much apreciatted thank you very much!! I am now almost completely stripped down and have started my shopping list. Then it goes back to together, shine and all.

Wanna hear the list? its very very ugly.:shocked: I rarely use service honda due to adding shipping everything costs the same, and this time service honda is being bought out. The hardest decision I am having right now is, do I replace all the needle bearings inside the cases. I know do it while your in there thing, but crap, Im replacing everything else already lol.

[haywood71]

Hey bones

I don't know whats up with your exhaust turning white, I have the DG xcellorator which a crome plated head pipe so all mine did was turn all kinds of pretty colors when it got warmed up the first time.:shrug:

That carb sure makes a difference thats for sure.

Jeff

[thefox]

Jen, I'm still am not sure about the 250R rear fenders:( . I’m sure everybody wants to hear what you are planning.

[bones200x]

Well Jeff. I don't know what happened to the exhaust either? I went Riding today, and stayed BLACK?????? Go figure....Maybe just the heat and the mud?lol.....
Still runs great. We went riding today. My friends chain broke on his trx450r. So i didnt get to run him.lol..(like I have a chance...lol)
I'm still waiting on to see if the R feneders work. I can get a set cheap..lol
later all...

[jenndnn3]

NExt time I am out I will see.

[Troll]

Originally posted by thefox
Has anyone tried to put 85-86 250R rear fenders on an 83-85 200X?


Anything is possible, heres a set on a air R. Just redid the mounting, seat and latch..................:thumbsup:
http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=108710

[Glenn]

I'm really thinking of doing this carb mod. I'm going to leave on my stock exhaust, but i think the bigger carb/intake combo will help.

[thefox]

I am going to go with the XR carb. too. I was thinking of holding out for a slightly bigger carb. but why bother. Jetting will be allot easier with the xr and so will installation, besides I ride using mainly low and mid range anyway so now need for a big topend carb.

[jenndnn3]

As you can see, there is a slight gap. If you can deal with that, then I think you will be fine. Thats of course is an r seat so I recommend the x seat for more flush fit with gas tank.

[jenndnn3]

Fox to answer your question I just dont know quite yet, I keep changing my mind. Once the engine goes back together I will answer.

[thefox]

Thanks Jen, that is just what I was looking for. That gap doesn't look that bad and I do like the looks of the R fenders more then the X fenders and it now opens up a few more color choices. It would be nice if the old maier low profile racing fenders were still available (or if I had more then just the right side:( ). lol, right now the hardest decision I have is picking the color scheme, I want something that looks a little different but I don't want to paint any plastic.

[greenhuman]

XR200 cranks are different. The XR 446 rod is wider at the big end and much longer lasting. The crank halves are narrower where the pin is located. 200X cranks generally run shims each side of the rod where the XR does not.
Over here XR 200 carbs are 30mm and run a 138 main jet std. At first glance they look the same externally, but have bigger slide and cap. The standard 200X inlet manifold can be ported to match the 30mm carb.

[jenndnn3]

The parts numbers I crossed referenced on the 2 cranks and popped the same numbers when it was in pieces. As a whole unit it popped 2 different part numbers. :shrug: I will check some of things out of curiosity sake tho. At this time since it is in best shape it the xr is going in. Thank you for info.

[Glenn]

Wow! A 30mm carb? That's pretty big....

[bones200x]

Every xr 200 I have checked runs a 26mm carb. They vary in jets from 98(I think) to a 115. Where is a 30mm carb? What years?
My XR carb came with a 110 main and a 38 pilot. Mine was for a 87 XR.
I know the inlet side is larger than the slide, But it is still rated a 26mm?
All I know is with the mods I have done. The XR carb runs the best. I have tried a 28mm, It was a pain to try to get "right".
Not saying you are wrong, (Lord knows I have been too),
I can't tell anything about the cases or cranks.I'm waiting on someone here to clear it up.....

[jenndnn3]

Ok I found the shims. BUT the million dollar question, If every part is the same part number why shims in the 200x? So I need to measure the rod I supposse, but according to parts numbers they are the same. So now I am slightly confused. Greenhuman what you say makes sense. I wont have any problems running without shims will I?

[thefox]

Bones - Greenhuman is from Australia. Sometimes there will be slightly different specs between countries because the bikes pass standards set by each government or for sometimes no apparent reason at all.

[haywood71]

the fox is right on the money:headbang:

[bones200x]

No problem. I apologize green.........I didn't pay attention to where you are. I will be more alert next time. I don't want to make anyone mad. Everyone (it seems) wants to help each other out. I will if I can.
Sorry if I stepped on some ones feet...I might have stuck my foot in my mouth....

[Glenn]

A link to the thread where Bones posted his carb pics. Posting this so we don't have to go searching at a later date.

http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19562

[markb]

see mods below:
DEATHMAN53: how did you come by the durablue axle? new or used
i looked into it but i don't ride the thing enough to spend the $400plus bucks on it until i break it
i guess with the 1st gen bike they used a modified 84 250 axle and parts.
GLENN: let me know if you want to go out one of these weekends. we've mostly been riding the bikes, and the xr project is taking most of my free time but a trike day would be cool.
mark

[Glenn]

Will do Mark! Drop me a PM!

[bones200x]

Hey Markb...what did the 31mm intake valve fit (that you put in your 200x)??????????
one more thing..Did the 350x shock bolt in, or was it a MOD thing?

[markb]

the 31mm was a pretty good fit, i took it to my regular auto machine shop and it went smooth. 1mm oversize doesn't seem like much but it's circumference not diameter that the charge sees.
as a note to anybody that gets involved in it, learn from my xr100 experience.
kibblewhite list a 1 mm os exhaust and a 2mm os intake for the 100. they DO NOT fit! i talked with them 4 times and had the head in the valve machine 4 times only to learn they don't work in that motor because of spacing. if anybody is thinking of this contact me and i can go thru it with you.
the 350 shock is a custom that i got into like the 250r forks because i weigh too much for the 200x. i've got it on a aftermarket swinger that has a little bit different contruction than stock but still has the same problem. they don't have enough room between the tubes to fit the 350 spring. i had to make a prototype link from aluminium and i couldn't believe that i got the thing pretty close with just dumb luck, i like it better in the woods than the 250. the next problem was the swingarm angle that i created which was too steep and made the bike tippy in the open. i short term fixed it with the 20*9 wheels and have since found a shock/ spring that will fit into the arm allowing me to lower it. i haven't had the bike back together in awhile after i lost a wrist pin bore and have been on other things. i was going to buy a new honda crank for it and avoid the rebuild hassle but after my 100 experience i'm rethinking it. i've had 2 bad 100 cranks from honda now and i'm hoping my third is good cause i want the thing together. i'll post a pic so you can see the problems.
mark

[jenndnn3]

.kibblewhite list a 1 mm os exhaust and a 2mm os intake for the 100. they DO NOT fit! i talked with them 4 times and had the head in the valve machine 4 times only to learn they don't work in that motor because of spacing. if anybody is thinking of this contact me and i can go thru it with you.


Lets discuss this, I am afraid I am confused.

[Glenn]

I think he's talking about oversized valves no working.

[markb]

i'm sorry i probably could have made that a little more clear.
i was refering to the xr100 on those 2 valves only. their os 200x piece was fine.
i mentioned it because if you look at their web site for the 100 it leads you to believe they fit easily.
after i pushed them on it he said he didn't know how people got them to fit they just made them to fill a demand.
we had to sink the intake about .08 and the exhaust is sunk to the limit of the seat diameter.
after all that i had to have them make custom shorter stem valves to make up for the sinking and i am back to running stock exhaust dia. to make it work. it's off the trike topic but i'm still a little hacked off after spending a couple of hundred bucks on 2 valves.
speed costs money how fast do you want to go?
mark:lala:

[jenndnn3]

Oh ok, I got ya now. The whole 100 thing got me. I am just useing Xr valves. If that really makes any difference which I doubt. I dont want speed, I want meat, beef, true grunt, whatever the heck the term is called today. Just not up on the ol slang anymore.

[thefox]

Well I picked up a set of 250R fenders for the X. Now just to figure out how to mount them and make a seat fit. I think I am going to go with the blue fenders, white tank and frame, black seat and engine. Of course the one new part I order already were the red super scoops:doh: looks like they will be up for sale soon as I now need white ones.

http://images.snapfish.com/34385%3C7523232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E2337%3D353%3D6%3B%3C%3DXROQDF%3E2323855776862ot1lsi

[jenndnn3]

HMM Cant wait to see it. How much for scoops? What do they look like? Pm me perhaps a trade on something?

[markb]

proto shock link pic
you can see the problem the spring posed

[1984200x]

so far ive got 1 thing done to it ....a 12:1 wiseco +2mm (67mm) piston...its max bore...i got it like that and installed it on a different engine...as of today i got brand new timing stuff..did chain, parts unlimited guide and tensioner....inever had a problem with them..i dunno how you guys have...anyway...its had a 185s carb and cam on it...i just got the 200x cam and im geting a carb for it monday..the stock carb...i know..you are probly thinkin..what a piece...hopefully ill notice a huge difference wit hthe stock carb and the stock cam instead of the smaller ones..its got a 13tooth front and stock 40 rear sprocket...and stock pipe..i cant figure out how to take out the baffle unless it is already cause its kinda loud..when i get a pipe im getting the dg stage 3 xccelerator for it..yes they make one!! i found it on ebay but dont have the money for it..even tho it was 1/2 off 320 bucks! yes 160! i kill myself everyday over not having the money for it..cause that would be bad ace..anyway.. heres my list of mods that i want

stage 3 dg xccellerator pipe
xr200 cam or web .370 lift
xr200 carb
14 tooth front sprocket
38 tooth rear sprocket
barnett heavy duty clutch, springs, and every thing else that goes with that
new kicker springs,
oversized valves
titanium valve springs
port and polish
350x front end
350x rear shock and custom mounts for it
k&n hi flow clamp on filter or uni foam clamp on
20" razr xcr's on back with douglas beadlocks
23.5 kenda somethin on the front
new tank and shrouds
durablue extended axle +2 or +4
extended swinger +4
250r front brakes
dg grab bar
185s-200 valve cover for the decomp
250r vented front fender

thats my list of wants..heres what i can do right now

stock cam and carb
uni foam fliter
13 tooth front 40 rear
12:1 wiseco max bore
the 185-200 valve cover for the decomp

hope this helps anyone with any ideas they may have not thought of..

[jenndnn3]

Welcome to the board! so tell me about your decompression lever. Is it auto or manual. I put manual on mine, but I can already tell I wont be happy with this setup, next step is to put manual to handle bars. I used the 200e decompression. The stuff you have so far sounds great. I too chose a 13 tooth. I am anxious to see how well that goes.

[1984200x]

yea i also used the 200m choke cable for the carb..its so sweet..i dont have to reach down there anymore and burn my hand on the engine....btw...it did 55 mph wich a smaller cam and carb!!! i think its gonna fly when i get it running again...i got the carb today instead of yesterday like i thought...im having the shop fix it...its not getting any spark...btw..theres another one of those dg xccelerator pipes on ebay for 169 BIN...id grab it guys...they are only BIN tho...but thats a great price for that pipe...i think it would even look cool too...nice and chrome...anyway..it works ok jenn...when it works...its a manual that i got now...i may put it on i may not...i dunno...i dont think ill even every have enough money to get that stuff done to it...right now i need to save for a car and get another job cause the one i got sucks and i put in my 2 weeks...lol...my mistake there...anyway..i prolly wont even have the money to go to tf05....i hope i do....o yea and in case any of you didnt know im 83185s on www.3wheelerworldforums.com and i made a new name on here cause i havt been on for awhile and i forgot both my name and password...

[Ed200X]

The con rod pin brg etc part #'s are not the same between the 200x and the xr200!!.

[Ed200X]

Oops! I was wrong The con rod is the different part numbered piece. It's actually from the 79-82 XL185S. So it may not be as long as the xr200 rod, besides being thinner at the big end.

[Ed200X]

Oops! I was wrong The con rod is the different part numbered piece. It's actually from the 79-82 XL185S. So it may not be as long as the xr200 rod, besides being thinner at the big end. xr200 rod PN is 13201-446-770 and the 200x pn is 13202-427-300

[pantera1975]

What kind of exhaust systems do people have on there 86 or 87 200x?? Is there somthing other than the old DG or Cobra system from the 80? I wondered if I used a performance header pipe and a new muffler with a spark arrestor. I have'nt look that hard for somthing but I'd like some ideas.

[bones200x]

Oops! I was wrong The con rod is the different part numbered piece. It's actually from the 79-82 XL185S. So it may not be as long as the xr200 rod, besides being thinner at the big end.

Funny thing. I had a XR185 come in and need piston. XR/200x piston pin is same size. Piston is 2 mm ABOVE the XR bore. So I bored it. The only thing I used was a 10.25:1 piston. It was 0.008-0.010" TALLER than cylinder. Machined out head for it to fit WITHOUT gasket. Then installed everything. Runs better than stock. And looks like you could bore 1mm more?
The only reason I tried was that they discontinued the XR stuff. Customer was very impressed.

[Ed200X]

What kind of exhaust systems do people have on there 86 or 87 200x?? Is there somthing other than the old DG or Cobra system from the 80? I wondered if I used a performance header pipe and a new muffler with a spark arrestor. I have'nt look that hard for somthing but I'd like some ideas.

I have a Bassani pipe on my '85 200X. Recently bought a 200x w/o an engine & sight unseen for $40.00. Sounds damn good, eh?! What got delivered was a motor-less 200X . . .With a 3" over Westcoast swinger and braided brake lines. Hooo Yaaaah!