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az350x
09-05-2005, 06:50 PM
I was straightening up my desktop, and came across these pics I took last fall when installing my new Goki starter setup on my wife's 350X. I took the photos with the intention of doing a brief write-up for the site on the installation, but don't think I ever got around to it. :D

Anyway, I uploaded the pics to my imagestation today, and I'm going to post them here, with a brief narrative (from what I can recall) of the install.

Here, you can see the entire contents of the Goki kit. The ONLY thing the kit doesn't include is a battery. The triangular-shaped items in the pic are a makeshift press-tool that comes with the kit, for the purpose of pressing the starter ring gear onto your flywheel. I used it, and it worked very well.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p3c930587ec98dd66520bd21fa37f4359/f27585b8.jpg


Here's the side view of my wife's bike before I began the install.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p3392c039598ee96e0adf898b799d3200/f27585b2.jpg

Basically, you start by removing the left side case completely. I used a cardboard soda flat, traced the outline of the case on it, and punched the bolts through the diagram as I removed them, since there are many different length bolts used, and I wanted to make sure and put them back in the right place. I used an air impact to remove the flywheel nut. Be careful when removing this item! This part is crucial to your bike running, as well as powering your lights, and now charging your battery!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p89a97ee63a51f0d3c08237ebda5d5f82/f2758591.jpg


This picture shows the makeshift press in use, pressing the ring gear onto the flywheel. The tool is slapped together, but served its purpose very well. I was delighted to see that they took the time and went to the trouble to include items like this in the kit.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p45bee543515e6279e0018c3d24d77462/f2758574.jpg

Here is the new left-side case cover installed on the bike. At this point, the flywheel with new ring gear have already been reinstalled. I didn't like the "polished" finish of the side case out of the box, so I powder-coated mine gloss black. I think it's a little less obtrusive (visually) now.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/pd29094bcbb440788d8c9f0e205479269/f275852b.jpg

Here you can see the ring gear on the flywheel, as viewed through the starter mounting pad. It is CRUCIAL to get the ring gear pressed all the way onto the flywheel, or it will rub as it turns (anytime engine is running), and probably not engage the starter correctly either.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p1046d78f456ed200dbe08b6f7596051e/f2758523.jpg

Here is the starter motor mounted in place, with blue-RTV sealant around the base to keep dirt, water and SAND (I'm a duner, remember!!) out of the side case. The next step is to begin the wiring.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p07fea1dd14ce20ca761e85025137857d/f27584f3.jpg

Here's the battery box and battery installed at the left rear of the frame. The OEM toolbox comes off to perform this step, but the kit includes spacers and hardware to reattach the tool box after battery tray installation. I elected to leave the toolbox off. I was, however, again very impressed at the attention to detail that this kit provides! NOTE: Since I do like to ride wheelies, etc., at this point I regret not purchasing a SEALED battery. I have flipped the trike once since install too, and it leaked a little acid into the tray when that happened. :doh: You can also see the starter relay and related wiring in this pic.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p01095378ef42f291fa4d5cfa288913c9/f275848e.jpg

Here's the starter motor with wiring hooked up.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p61291e6facc51ffc9c99227973fc5567/f2758465.jpg

Here's the start button mounted to the handlebar clamps. Kind of a farm-implement type setup, but it's got a rubber seal over it, and seems to do the job. The bracket is blue anodized in the kit.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/pc4883b449af6755bffb5e69854fd8065/f2758447.jpg

Here's the rear-view of the bike, with seat/plastic back on, after complete installation of the starter. It is somewhat visible, but oh well. It beats having to stop riding 150 times/day to kick start the bike for my wife!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid185/p36a07bbe526d466c3c911c7fe5fb026c/f2758411.jpg

Well, that's it in a nutshell. A lot of people have reservations about the stock stator being able to keep up with a battery, as the bike was not designed to charge one originally. Goki recommends that you turn your lights off during daylight riding in order to provide more power to the battery.

In summary, the install took less than a half day (mine was longer since I stopped to powdercoat the cover), and was very straightforward. I was DELIGHTED with the detail of the directions, as well as the completeness of the kit and even things like the press tool they provided. The drawings on the directions, although somewhat primitive, were very easy to decipher (I was a technical writer for Boeing, writing maintenance procedures for the Apache Longbow helicopter for 5 years). I would HIGHLY recommend this setup to anyone who might have a use for it. The kits are still available NEW, for around $350 shipped.

Hope that helps someone out!

my90rulz
09-05-2005, 11:52 PM
I thoght i remember you doing a post on this...:chuckle: maby its me tho./...good write up!

Glenn
09-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Excellent writeup!

az350x
09-06-2005, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by my90rulz
I thoght i remember you doing a post on this...:chuckle: maby its me tho./...good write up!

Quite possible, actually. But, I have gotten a couple of PM's lately asking questions about the install and the kit in general, so maybe this'll help answer some of those.

ATCnut
09-06-2005, 11:37 PM
Im moving this to tech tips, its a good one

fyi
09-19-2005, 02:02 PM
Nice tech article. :)

I emailed Goki a week or so ago and inquired about this modification. They had no good pictures to display to see what it looked like installed unfortunately, which was very important to me before I made my purchase. They stated that it added about 12 lbs. to the chassis weight and also added about 4" to the overall width of the engine.

Based on that info and the fact the I'm lightening the flywheel (the ring gear won't press onto it because of that) I've decided against buying it, as it's just not for me or my application. I can see it's a quality built kit though and would probably put it on any other machine if weight concerns wasn't an issue.

Thanx again for the photos! :)

kblackav8or
12-29-2005, 10:24 PM
Anyone had problems with leaks with the GOKI kit? I installed mine (before I deployed) and now I have a leak when the engine is running. Bad side cover? Did I forget something? Suggestions? I also am looking for a good shop in San Diego, CA.
Kevin
Edit - Moderator can move this post if you like. On search it seemed to fit here.

ERBE
03-13-2006, 12:38 PM
Whats Goki's web site?

thefox
03-19-2006, 11:18 PM
Whats Goki's web site?

http://www.spinreel.com/goki-atv.html

Lomax
03-24-2006, 12:25 PM
So Goki still makes this kit? I thought they were gone. This is great news for me due to the knee problems that I have.

350XBigbore
01-24-2008, 11:45 AM
Ordered mine yesterday, I hope it cranks my bigbore, high compression 393cc engine. I'll let you guys know how it works. Later

Dammit!
01-24-2008, 12:02 PM
Good write up and ironic that somebody bumped it today. Look what I picked up last night (http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=79013). :yup:

dovesprings250R
01-24-2008, 12:09 PM
Are you gonna run the Goki?

Dammit!
01-24-2008, 12:15 PM
I don't know. I sent an e-mail to them to see if the rest of the kit is available and what it would run me. If I can get it going cheap enough I might throw it on there. Either that or I might just slowly fix up this motor. I need to take a closer look at it and determine for sure what year it is.

FlyingW
01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
I put a Goki on my X. I did however deviate from their instructions in that the kit comes with a battery tray that's supposed to hang off the left side of the tail where the toolbox goes but I didn't like that. I ended up turning my air box into a battery box and went to a UNI foam filter. it worked out beautifully. The other issue I had was to start the trike, the rider has to push down on the kicker with his hand to engage the decompressor while pressing the start button. This sucked too so I had a cable made that goes from my parking brake lever on the left perch and ran it down to the decompressor. To start, I push the parking brake button down and pull in my clutch just enough to engage the decompressor. Once the starter starts cranking the motor I just let my clutch handle out. That too worked out beautifully. The last thing I did to accomodate the Goki was to buy a TRX light switch assy off Ebay for 18.00. It has a start button in it. A little rewiring and now I have a start button that looks like it belongs there rather than using the Goki supplied button. The TRX switch is slightly different that the 350X switch in that the stop/run button is just opposite than normal. To run, I have to slide the switch to the left ot to the right. Center is stop. No biggie for me as I have a dead mans switch on it anyway.



Ordered mine yesterday, I hope it cranks my bigbore, high compression 393cc engine. I'll let you guys know how it works. Later