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sandmangw
11-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Being the cheap sob that I am, what's the best way to keep from having to find/buy a "new" gas tank. I've managed to plug a pin hole already, but have found some fuel seapage at a seam. btw, it's a '85 and I only spent $200 on aquiring it. It's only used for dragging deer out of the woods.

Bo0YaA
11-13-2007, 11:13 AM
I tell ya what, my daughters trx70 has about 1/2 pound of gas tank repair putty from Checker lol. Its about $6.50 per tube and it works great as long as u sand/grind it down to the metal first.

sandmangw
11-13-2007, 11:17 AM
That's what I used on the pinhole. Problem is, I think the leak is in the seam. Be no sanding in there, heh-heh. Has anyone ever used that stuff that lines the inside the tank, Kreem, I think it's called?

Bo0YaA
11-13-2007, 11:45 AM
If you are leeking at the seam, I would be willing to bet money if you were to grind away the paint you would find a bunch of pinholes. The reason I say that is thats exactly what my daughters tank was doin. The entire seam from front to back looked great when it was painted but leaked just a little. As soon as I hit it with some sand paper I realized just how bad it was rusted. And due to it not being seen on the trx I just went ahead and ground all the rust out which was pretty much the entire seam lol.

jenndnn3
11-13-2007, 12:13 PM
I agree with booyaa on this. I bet you will find the pinholes...

Kreeme is ok to use alot of process involved

I heard red-kote is better... (or whatever it is called)
If you do a search on here something to the effect of leaky gas tanks or coating gas tanks for key words there are quite a few threads on the subject and possible solutions.

Welcome to the board!

sandmangw
11-14-2007, 06:53 AM
Just out of curiosity, do they make a plastic tank for the '85 110?

SYKOLINCOLN
11-14-2007, 08:29 AM
the best tank sealer on the market is POR15 tan sealer, as it dries it also expands some. I Do tank restoration and have a large thread on it on another site, and alot of members here know I do it as well. The only problem with the POR15 sealer is after you open the can, its over with! you cannot pour the extra back in and reseal it, it will be a rock the next morning in the can even if you've sealed it up perfect!, but they do offer it in PINT cans, so doing your tank with it is no biggie. I pour it in seal up the top and bottom of the tank turn it around and upside down slowly (to let the sealer get everywhere) for about 30 mins, then drain the excess out back into can, let it stand for about 1 hr then pour the excess back in and repeat the process, after that I make sure I get as much as possible out and let it stand in a dry area for at least a week (they say 72 hrs) but I like to do alittle longer. Ive been having to redo tanks (not ones that I have done before) becouse the redcoat has failed on it or its to thin and just dosnt seal well, and this POR15 is the best in my op.

sandmangw
11-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Since the tank on the 110 does not have a pet ****, just the two tubes that the fuel lines conect to, how do you suggest I keep them from getting clogged? The "reserve" tube/outlet already seems clogged, but I think that's just debris, since I poked a scribe in it and it began to drip sloooooooowwwly. (I am correct that these are just two tubes of different heights, right? The shorter going to the reserve side of the selector?)

SYKOLINCOLN
11-14-2007, 09:19 AM
yes they are 2 diffnt heights, its also kinda hard to get all the POR out becouse of them, but be patient and just work with it, also you can use a long drill bit to clean the tubes out

sandmangw
11-14-2007, 09:46 AM
I was thinking that drill bits would work. They're just that, tubes, nothing special in the tank where I can't see. Have you ever used that Kreem - 3 part system? It seems to be the easiest one to find here - NAPA-crapa carries it, $32 for the smallest kit.

SYKOLINCOLN
11-14-2007, 09:59 AM
Ive used it, but prefer the POR15, if done correctly its still good though

sandmangw
11-14-2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks!!!! I just want to keep this thing runnin' without spending a bunch of $$. I'm too old and outta shape to be draggin' deer' through the woods, over hill and dale. (whoever dale is.)

rdlsz24
11-14-2007, 02:10 PM
I have heard POR15 mentioned alot with coating truck frames with surface rust. Like SykoLincoln said, it's supposed to be the best.

Rob

gorbyback
11-14-2007, 04:42 PM
I wouldn't use kreem, I have a tank with kreem in it and the problem is the kreem gets too thick in the tank and will start cracking and will start leaking again, I suggest either 2 applications of redkote or using the por15. I like using redkote and also know the por15 product is a good product, I used their product on frames and their engine paint and their products have held up very well also.

SYKOLINCOLN
11-14-2007, 09:22 PM
well POR15 has a specific product JUST for gas tanks, its not like the frame paint or anything else but just for gas tanks

Speedway73
11-15-2007, 10:27 AM
Anybody use KBS Coatings??

www.KBS-COATINGS.com

HondaYamaha rider
11-16-2007, 06:02 PM
I use good ol' JB Kwick weld. Best stuff in my book, plus CHEAP!! My 200 is mostly a worker and woodser and the tank had to have atleast 5 rust holes in it when I got it. JB Kwick worked great in sealing the holes. Anyway that's my $.02. Good Luck with sealing it:thumbsup:

HondaYamaha rider

gorbyback
11-16-2007, 11:16 PM
yeah if you want talk cheap and dont care what it looks like in the end I would agree jb weld works great and looks like a second grader attached gum to your tank. If you like the look of that, then jb weld is the winner of cheap and homely looking too.

HondaYamaha rider
11-17-2007, 08:49 AM
yeah if you want talk cheap and dont care what it looks like in the end I would agree jb weld works great and looks like a second grader attached gum to your tank. If you like the look of that, then jb weld is the winner of cheap and homely looking too.

Hey!, just giving some advise. If you know what your doing you can apply the JB weld, let it stand (12hrs or so) then take a file and file it down the the level of the tank. If you do it right you can paint the hole tank Honda Red (just mask off the Honda stickers) and everyone will look at you stupidly when you tell them you JB'd the tank, because they won't be able to see the JB weld. I've done many tanks like this and it works great, and looks PROFESSIONAL. Just putting in my advise.

HondaYamaha rider

sandmangw
11-19-2007, 06:13 AM
I used some putty/weld/stick stuff on the pinhole i found, but I'm not so sure the seam wouls seal. I'm more and more leaning to finding the cheapest plastic tank I can to find to put on it.
on a side note, I did have to use it saturday and drag the first deer of the season out.