help me choose......

[EVERCLEAR]

hello
i need help i cant make up my mind
im getting another bike or possibly converting one.
i have trikes i ride.
but im either going to get a
brand new yfz450 quad
or make a atc500r
i cannot make up my mind. tell me what is better.

[Gdkarma]

Welcome aboard, and glad you joined us! Do you have some trikes to share photos of, or just thinking about getting into trikes?

[EVERCLEAR]

i got 2 and more i can get ahold of mine are a 350x and 200x and most the time i ride my uncles 250rs

[jenndnn3]

HI Everclear!!

Welcome..

[EVERCLEAR]

i have been a member of 3ww for a while

[jenndnn3]

Yeah me too! Dont post much though,, this place for some weird reason keeps me busy enough..:shrug:

But joined them before here actually when they were still on another format bulletin board.. EZboards or something like that..

[85200xguy]

i say get the yfz 450 because you can't beat 4 stroke! realiability! i personally want a trx450!!!

[250sx]

hello
i need help i cant make up my mind
im getting another bike or possibly converting one.
i have trikes i ride.
but im either going to get a
brand new yfz450 quad
or make a atc500r
i cannot make up my mind. tell me what is better.

I guess it boils down to whether you wanna go fast or go all day. :D

[Vegas250RR]

the way 450's drop out here in the heat, I say go the 500 route... 450's are just a money pit to repair. This is just my opinion... and you did ask for it

[EVERCLEAR]

money wise there about the same with the 500r u repair it every year
but with the 4 strokes its every 7 years.
atleast thats what i have been told.

[aviomech]

money wise there about the same with the 500r u repair it every year
but with the 4 strokes its every 7 years.
atleast thats what i have been told.


Depending on how much and the type of riding you do, the 450 req piston and rings every 50 hrs(manufacturer recom). But that is if you ride hard(mx or racing). Depending on how often you ride you may not have to do a piston and rings for 4 or 5 years. But its not the intial cost of the 450, but rather the upgrades you do to it that get pricey. I garantee if your looking for some performance, you'll be upgrading the 450.

The 500r is performance without the extra cash. But I have not owned one, so can not speak on its behalf.

I do own a kfx450, and would not trade it for anything. But it has taken an $2-3k out of my pocket in accessories and performance mods.:doh: The only true performance out of the box 450, is the KTM. You'll pay a little more now, but save alot in the future on mods. But if your just looking for a weekend rider, and not focused on getting every last hp out your bike, than a yfz450 will suit you fine.

[EVERCLEAR]

i have a chance on getting a tecate 86 needs some work but theres a big problem the guy lives 5 hours away.
im only trading my nissan though no money.

http://roseburg.craigslist.org/mcy/1296177387.html

[Duner]

get a 450 and put a 497 kit on it...you'll give any 500 powered trike all they can handle and beat most 4 pokes at the Hill or flats:eek:

[aviomech]

That tecate is looking a little rough....I was looking at a real nice one like that for a $1000 couple months ago. Me personally, I wouldn't give more than $500, maybe 600if it runs great. Depends on what you think your nissan is worth.

[aviomech]

Just saw this ad for a Tecate. Probably a good deal, and easy fix.

http://corvallis.craigslist.org/mcy/1309405498.html

[EVERCLEAR]

that tecate runes just needs some love.
i wont get a tecate older than 86 until i already have a 86.
the one above is a old man who always hangs up i already tried.
i might try that if the one i showed dont work out.

[NOS_350X]

Get the 2 stroke, These new 450's are money pits. Even in stock form the motor will go. Not IF it goes, BUT When it does your looking at, New head, valves piston and cyl.

its an easy 2k rebuild.

The 450s are built to be fast not to stay together.

These 450's arent like the old 350x's or XR dirtbikes. They arnt ment to last. They require MORE maintince then the 2 stroke.

[aviomech]

Get the 2 stroke, These new 450's are money pits. Even in stock form the motor will go. Not IF it goes, BUT When it does your looking at, New head, valves piston and cyl.

its an easy 2k rebuild.

The 450s are built to be fast not to stay together.

These 450's arent like the old 350x's or XR dirtbikes. They arnt ment to last. They require MORE maintince then the 2 stroke.


Couldn't disagree more. I have had my kfx450 for a year and have had no problems. The only thing I have spent money on is upgrades. All the trx, yfz, kfx, and 450 dirtbike owners I have met and know, have never complained of the reliability, more of the expense to upgrade. One friend that owns an 06 CR 450f, rides it hard, and replaces his piston and rings every 2 years, says its alot less of a headache than his old kawi 250.

Now for my friends that own the 2-strokes, the 250r's, banshees, etc. I haven't been out riding yet this year when someones 2-stroke doesn't burn a topend, burn up a clutch, suck a reed, burn a stator, etc. My tools have come out everytime, only to fix 2-stokes. This includes the 250r's and cr480r I've owned.

Now the cheaper way to gain power, yes the 2-strokes are easier. But reliability??? Not even close.

[NOS_350X]

Im racing every week. Seeing these bikes run week after week.

The 450's you need to adjust the valves constantly and replace pistons just as often as a 2 stroke. Any 450 with any time on them will start having alot of problems. Ill show some pics of the 450 i raced later. I know all about them.

[aviomech]

Im racing every week. Seeing these bikes run week after week.

The 450's you need to adjust the valves constantly and replace pistons just as often as a 2 stroke. Any 450 with any time on them will start having alot of problems. Ill show some pics of the 450 i raced later. I know all about them.

Your talking a totally different beast. Racing bikes are built to their max capabilities, and therefore break alot more, regardless of 2-stroke or 4-stroke. We are talking ride around duner, the average persons quad or trike.

I have no plans of replacing my piston and rings for another year or 2. On the 2-strokes I've owned, I'd already done a topend on them. Haven't touch mine mechanically in a years time, only oil change and spark plug, and obviously upgrades.

[EVERCLEAR]

im going with the 500r.

[aviomech]

im going with the 500r.


Sweet!!! Don't forget to post your build. Its always cool to see another 500r come to life!!:headbang:

[jcorkin]

i would look into that first tecate as it appears to have an aluminum swinger on it and if thats the case that would make it a cal fab and worth around $500 or more depending on the condition of it, i would offer $600 for it and see what happens and check to see if the swinger is made of aluminum

[NOS_350X]

86&7 T3's had alum swingers stock

[3razors]

Good choice on the 500. If you keep the newer 4 stroke stock you do keep some degree of long term reliability IF strict maintenance is followed. The 450's come from the manufacturers in a very high state of tune already, when you start modifiying them with big bore, ect. the reliability drops to 40% or less than stock. Plus a good running CR500 with just good porting (nothing too radical), head mod, and pipe will put out 70hp and be stone ax reliable..something no stock 450 can come close to.

[EVERCLEAR]

the 250r i ride has 80 hp.
its built to its max almost.

[EVERCLEAR]

i have a way of getting both.
im financing the 450 and all the extra money im saving and building the 500r.
once im all done im looking at collecting tecates while theyr still existant.

[3razors]

the 250r i ride has 80 hp.
its built to its max almost.

More details please..If its a true 250cc's you aren't getting 80hp.

[SpacemanSpiff]

You've already got good reliable 4 strokes in the X's, I say go for the hole shot and burn some sand, dirt, rubber etc, and do the 500. Plus you can make it a one of a kind plus you'll have something a little different to ride than 4 strokes.

[EVERCLEAR]

yes the 500 is going to be really fastand fun.
im going to take my time on the build and make it look like honda manufactured it.
im thinking of powdercoating the frame neon glow in the dark green
and i cant choose what color the plastics should be.
and that 250r i ride isnt mine but it is built like a champ and has scared the crap out of most people who have the guts to put the thing in gear.
i beat all my friends with it they all got dirtbikes and this 250r makes them look like pos.

[EVERCLEAR]

im in the process of buying that 250r but not before i build a 500r.

[EVERCLEAR]

thanks for the comments