350X CLutch & Starting problems

[Tyler 54]

Ok I really need some help on this, becasue quite frankly this thing is pissign me off LOL. I just got my 350 all together And Its got a new cluct cable, and a used clutch I keep screwing with it and i Cant get any feal in the handle its just really loose. My clutch looks good? Is It possible that it is bad?

Second, I cant get her to start for nuthingIt cranks over like hell, but would not start???? Is this just another case of the hard starting 350X or Could it be something to do with the timing ???

Any help or suggestions Is Greatly Appreciated.
Thanks, Tyler

[hrc200x]

When you putch the clutch in did you put the little lifter piece in the side cover that the clutch pertch pushes against? There are two possible adjustments for the clutch if it is together right. One is in teh cable and the other is on the pertch on the handle bar. its hard to expain how the one in the cable works, but the one on the bar if you thread it out that takes up the extra slack, the one in the cable does the same thing but I can't remember which way to turn it.

Timing or hard starting could both be the problem. Did you do the timing your self? If so did you do it by the manual how to set it? YOu might consider pulling it behind somthing to get the motor turning faster, that way you can mess with the choke and throttle while its turning over. Do you have gas flowing from the petcock? Do you have spark?

[Tyler 54]

I adjusted both of those adjustments all the way out and there was stil nuthing, and yes that lillte piece is in the outer case. but stil no fealing in it.

Yea, I set it myself, I am about 99% sure its right, I have done it before, by the book, I was gona pull it behind somehting, but Am waiting for a front sprocket, thanks!!!!!

[dads]

is the clutch pin in place ? do you feel any tension on the clutch lever at all?

[Tyler 54]

Not to sound like an idiot, but whats a clutch pin? I do not have any tension at all on the handle, that is the basic problem

[dads]

look here


http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/PartsBandit/oem_schematic.asp?schem_dept_id=170114&section_dept_id=1&section_dept_name=OEM++%28Stock%29+Parts&dept_type_id=2&model_dept_year=1986&model_dept_mfr=Honda&model_dept_id=170090&model_dept_name=ATC350X

[Tyler 54]

Everything looks right except for on that schematic, I see a 21 on there? I am not sure if my bike has the number 21??

[hrc200x]

21 is just a clip to hold in 20 and 18, the clip snaps into part 8, thats probably why you didn't notice it. Number 10 is the part I was talking about above, it should have moutned in your side case before you put it on. Did you make sure you put in all the discs and alternated them, like fiber, metal, fiber, metal.

[Tyler 54]

Yea did that do. Isnt this frustrating?

[Fuzzy]

Just wondering what you used for springs?. If the springs had compressed it will act pretty much the same way. The clutch slave cant move over enough to reach the spring plate if the springs are compressed beyond there tolerance. Did you put new springs in?.

[Tyler 54]

No it doesnt have new springs in it, I just used the old ones

[Fuzzy]

You may need to pull one of the springs out and measure them and see if they are still in the usable range. I dont know off hand what the tolerance is on them. Maybe Hrc200x or one of the other guys with a manual could look that up for you.

[Tyler 54]

Ok, now Im gonan called stupid but oh well. When I put this motor on I put an 85 clutch cover on it, I failed to remember this until about an hour ago, and didnt know at the time that the setup was different, I changed them and now its all good, so thanks everybody for your help, Now If I can just get it started!!!!

[hrc200x]

'85 to '86 clutch covers are different? Where abouts is the difference besides cable routing and clutch pertch??

[Tyler 54]

Well the actual case is the same, but the piece that comes out of the case that the clutch cable hooks too, just catches in a different spot due to different cable routing

[hrc200x]

you got any extra 350x motor parts you'd sell?

[Tyler 54]

What are you looking for

[hrc200x]

Anything and everything. Let me know what you got.
<---- they don't call me 350x whore for nothing.

[Tyler 54]

LOL, I gots an 85 Bottom end, Extra wiring (pretty cut) Swing Arm 2 extra tanks, rear shock I think thats it??? I'm just not sure what I want to sell

[Tyler 54]

I am in need of motor mounts so do you have any?