Special socket for 200X?

[MonteRide99]

I was out last weekend and lost second gear, All others work, but second just grinded so I shut her down and took her home. I took apart the upper end and ther was no damage (phew) but my problem now is that it looks like i need a special socket to get the clutch pack out and whatever the other thing is beside it also has a nut that would use a 4 prong socket, does anyone know where i can get one for cheap? I don't have a manual so I can't find a part # for it to order it from honda. Please help, Also, Do you suppose I may have been lucky enough to just trash 1 or 2 gears or do you think i will find more when i get in there?

[dads]

Sounds more like a slightly bent shift fork, most of the time you will hear a loud snap when the teeth brake off or locking ears, the grinding is the ears not locking into the holes in the gear. Not to costly,not to had, more a pain in the aho . you have to tare down almost the hole eng. and it requires a manual.

[Unregistered]

best place to get a manual and that special socket? don't really care to pay dealer tons of money if it can be had elsewhere cheaper! Sorry, I am new to the 3 wheeler, small engines thing, I build SB and BB chevy's not little trike motors! but hey, gotta learn sometime

[Stan MaN]

Hey you said you build SB and BB engines? What do those letters really mean? Are they to classify racing motors or what?:confused:

[250sx]

Small Block and Big Block :D

[200XRider]

yeah small and big block, I had (sold her too much $$) a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 and built one hell of a little 383 chev for it (412 hp and 453ft/lbs) at the rear wheels! but I kept breaking drive shafts and axles, it was my daily driver and I used up all my money on the damn motor and was unable to afford beefier drive train, being as I was just out of high school at the time, I Now have a 1979 firebird formula that I am building a 454cid motor for but thats slow going for now, I have a payment on my current car and a 3 wheeler to get going first! so money is a little tight, but hey, gotta pay to play

[hrc200x]

My uncle made one of those 4 prong sockets out of a regular hex socket. Just get a socket the exact size of the 4 prong nut and grind away everything except where the 4 prongs should be, it wasn't perfect, but it worked.

[All X's]

My uncle made one of those 4 prong sockets out of a regular hex socket. Just get a socket the exact size of the 4 prong nut and grind away everything except where the 4 prongs should be, it wasn't perfect, but it worked.
That's exactly what i did works great, But i used an impact socket.

[bones200x]

yeah small and big block, I had (sold her too much $$) a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 and built one hell of a little 383 chev for it (412 hp and 453ft/lbs) at the rear wheels! but I kept breaking drive shafts and axles, it was my daily driver and I used up all my money on the damn motor and was unable to afford beefier drive train, being as I was just out of high school at the time, I Now have a 1979 firebird formula that I am building a 454cid motor for but thats slow going for now, I have a payment on my current car and a 3 wheeler to get going first! so money is a little tight, but hey, gotta pay to play

Why not build a Pontiac 455? Maybe the cost. But remember Buick,Olds,Pontiac transmissions does not bolt up to Chevy. Different bolt pattern. Unless you have the universal bell housing.
How about I sell you a 70 Buick 455? Complete stock( carb to oil pan)I know it should bolt in.
As far as the socket. Make one or buy one.
http://dratv.com/doen4prtohas.html

May need an impact screwdriver to remove some of the stubborn phillipshead screws...Like oil pump...

[250sx]

wow this one is back from the dead...gotta agree that a 454 in a Firebird is highly gay.

[MagicJames]

You need a Pontiac 400 in that bad lad, all the way. If it were me i would throw a 350 in it and a 327 crank and de-stroke the motor. Just my .02

[bones200x]

You need a Pontiac 400 in that bad lad, all the way. If it were me i would throw a 350 in it and a 327 crank and de-stroke the motor. Just my .02


You forgot to say 327 rods too. OH. it has to be a 68 327 also. 66-67 327 was small journal. If you look it up. They say there was a 69 327. Acutally they were left over 68. 327 rods and crank makes it a 327.
350 would make more torque and horsepower.
I built a 327. On paper(blueprinted) it would have made 395hp. Actual output was 315 at rear wheels. I think that equals around 375 at crank.

[MagicJames]

what you do is you mill down the block .xxx i dont know the exact math, i have a friend who has a de stroked pontiac 400 small block with 327 rods in it, and then you run the 400 pistons and by making the stroke the smaller it pounds horsepower, but is not a real good daily driver, but it does about 140 in the 1/4 mile, pretty fast for what it is, but a lot of machine work and know how.

[bones200x]

MAybe I learned something? Never mixed other engine parts.(i.e. Chevy,Pontiac,etc...)
Used to (I think) take 327 crank and put in 283 and make a 302. I rode in a factory 69 Camero 302, 4 speed, 4.11 posi(to the best of my memory 4.11) Was a very fast and powerful car. Would melt tires off in 3rd. Only had less than 6,000 miles on car. Don't know where car is now. Wouldn't mind having it...lol
I wish I had all the cars my dad and grandfather EVER owned!!! I would ooohhh so rich now.....
Just a small list of what I remeber.
62 Chevy convertable (original SS), 70 Road Runnner 383, 3 speed, pistol grip shifter, 55 chevy Original powertrain(different paint, actually got 35 MPG on trips!!!6cyl), 57 Chevy Bel Air 4-door, 63 Impala SS, 71 Chevelle(actually Malibu) , and still have this one 57 Chevy Sedan Delivery. A lot more than this..1 mentionable 66 1/2 mustang convertable.

Most small blocks we built had MIN 350 hp at crank. Had a 307 (we bought in a car) had 315 at crank.. Solid lift cam, 780 Holley carb, Had an aluminuim intake(NOT edelbrock). Rand good, had to adjust valves it seemed once a month.

That 327 I built. had a Comp 280 cam blueprinted with 395HP. Install a .510 lift cam and power went to 425. Oh...the heads was ported, bigger valves, 11:1 compression, 780 Holley, roller rockers, deburred block (inside).


I didn't mean to take over this thread with car stuff. It is just like bikes. I like talking about them. I have a longer history working on cars than bikes.
I didn't even see the 2002 date on original post until 250sx posted comment about it being dead.....

[gorbyback]

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[djdubious2]

My uncle made one of those 4 prong sockets out of a regular hex socket. Just get a socket the exact size of the 4 prong nut and grind away everything except where the 4 prongs should be, it wasn't perfect, but it worked.
this is also what i did exept i used a regular 21 mm socket and it worked for me.
otherwise you can find the socket you need on ebay for right around $20 with shipping i believe.